Emerging Form
Emerging Form
Episode 6: Quitting (with guest Pam Houston)
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Episode 6: Quitting (with guest Pam Houston)

“Quitter” is sometimes an insult, but in this episode we explore how quitting can be underrated. Anyone involved in a creative project has likely wondered at some point if they should suck it up and continue the fight or move on. We’ll also discuss the dangers of the sunk cost fallacy, insights from Clue, the value of a coin toss, and of course, obeying the emerging form. Then, we interview author and teacher Pam Houston, and ask her these two questions: 1) How do you know it’s time to quit? and 2) How do you distinguish between “this is hard but insights will come” from “this is hard and it can’t work”?

Episode Notes

Pam Houston

Deep Creek, by Pam Houston

Rosemerry’s poem about Clue

Christie’s posts at The Last Word on Nothing

Craig Childs on The Last Word on Nothing blog

Hannah Moshontz de la Rocha, a psychologist who studies quitting

Northwestern University study on happiness and discarding unrealistic goals

New York Times article on knowing when it is time to quit

Jessica Abel on knowing when it is time to quit

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Emerging Form
Emerging Form
Emerging Form is a podcast about the creative process in which a journalist (Christie Aschwanden) and a poet (Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer) discuss creative conundrums over wine. Each episode concludes with a game of two questions in which a guest joins in to help answer questions about the week's topic. Season one guests include poets, novelists, journalists, a song writer, a circus performer, a sketch artist and a winemaker.